Friday, October 24, 2025

[UPDATED] Conspiracy speculation. It means the same as "conspiracy theory" but has not become a right wing whipping child terminology honed to discredit things without thought at play.

 This is Charlie Kirk's last Sept 9 America First broadcast, guest Ben Shapiro. This is a nutshell summary of the thing filmed and broadcast, which could have been written by an AI summarization LLM tool thing. If you do not watch (recommended), at least read the nutshell.

The date on this short YouTube item is unclear, but it is thought by Crabgrass to have been shortly after the Oct 6 events with Israeli deaths and hostage taking. Edite[Ud from a larger item, and posted to YouTube much more recently. That could be wrong and it might have been recorded more recently. 

Days after that last show linked to above, Kirk was gunned down on the Utah campus.

There is a lot of stuff on the web about his persona, and his death. This is a quite short item to read and think over. This is a fairly presented non-conclusory post-death item published by a Jewish outlet. It mentions ideas - speculation - that Israel may have turned on Kirk, at sensitive times, and too big to be an independent loose cannon kind of influencer.

This YouTube ietm now is the clincher - what grabbed my attention. It is by a sensationalist presenter, one I trust generally however, to raise interesting things to dwell over. Ambiguous and painfully repetitious, but chilling and posing something not normal as a reaction, where others showed the normal situation. Put aside the tone of the thing, and just consider the video of the Kirk senior staffer's actions. It is hard to explain. 

Make sense of it if you can, and otherwise keep it well in mind over time as the FBI's perp gets processed by the Trump DOJ/FBI and things could pinch a bit as being contrived, too nailed down/put together, or  strange. Tucker Carlson has speculative items online, but, no link posted here, so find what you will by your own search as much as you care to. Track down Carlson's wierd short speech at the post-shooting love-in thing that JD hosted. It is separately online, so the whole insipid thing can be avoided.

We live in interesting times.

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The Charlie Kirk/Israel Oct 7 speculation clip showing up on the web in several undated clips, is fleshed out a bit in this Facebook clip, and - most importantly - is part of the complete Oct 12, 2023, podcast in which Kirk questioned Israel's October 7 narrative (during an appearance on the Patrick Bet-Davide (PDB) podcast). The Kirk/Oct. 7 deliberative part starts at the 25 min or 25-1/2 min point in that podcast, with a preliminary topic intro by another speaker, so it's not new content.

(Readers might enjoy the full podcast, for what it is and how it moves between topics and shows thought different from those of Crabgrass. It is there in full, for what it is.)

For provocative online content closer to before Kirk was shot dead in Utah, try search = bill ackman giving charlie kirk an offer he couldn't refuse but did --- one of several interesting returned links:

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/