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Tuesday, July 30, 2024

Well, somebody printed a bunch of "MASS DEPORTION NOW" signs for the white people at the RNC convention to hold up and wave around. That's as big a fraud as building the wall, (and Mexico will pay for it). Those people waving the signs from Trump are the same ones who'd eat a bullshit sandwich if Trump fed it to them.


 Well, at that RNC convention, "Mass Deportation Now" signs. Where is Trump/Vance/Stephen Miller going to send them? Iraq? That part has not been clarified. And will Mass Deportation of Mr. Vance's Childless Cat Ladies be next? He does hate on them a lot. That whole deportation fraud is as big a sack of bullshit as building the wall. Never gonna happen. Concentration camps for people numbering the same as the population of Chicago's greater metro area? Israel cannot handle two and a half million, already concentrated, in Gaza. Give me a fucking break. What? Perhaps build the concentration camps on Trump owned golf courses, the government paying Trump per-square-foot rent? In perpetuity? Mar-a-Lego would only hold a few thousand standing room only. That's a giant fraud, and when Kamala calls Trump out on it at a debate it will be game over. Those old white people at the RNC convention, holding the signs. Once their Social Security is pulled (should Trump win with Project 2025 implemented), are going to cut lettuce, load melons, and work packing plants? 

Those stupid Deportation signs will be remaindered at two cents on the dollar. 

Tweet Link.  

HuffPo.

______________UPDATE_____________

Focus groups and polling tell the Big Liar he can sell MASS DEPORTATION.

So -

This video, he never says other nations will accept people he'd want to round up and deport. He never says how he could get any consensus that way? Draft people and go to war to force Guatamala to take in eleven million people? What? Economic sanctions? They sure are working against Russia and Iran. The people of those nations are suffering worse economies than otherwise. But the sanctions are not getting compliance with the aims intended to be imposed. 

Go to war with Honduras, to send people back there who never fit in or had a decent life there so send people back to where they left because the economy there could not absorb them? 

Once you get to details, past the spin, it fails to impress, because it cannot be done. 

Trump just waves his hands and delivers that bullshit sandwich, which some will willingly bite into. It's sick that a nation with most adults having K-12 educations cannot see to ask, "How are you going to get any other nation to take in millions of people you don't want, when they'd not want them either?" 

The answer is for Congress to legislate ways and means and funding to regulate immigration as Congress sees fit, which could then be implemented by the executive branch. Once a policy is set into detail and funded, impose that policy. 

And adapt the current economy to who is here now. It already is happening. Immigrants looking for work are working in large measure, with those born here or naturalized also finding work. There is no real problem. 

There are jobs. There is a fat, mean man selling a scare speech, and nothing else. Buy at your own risk. However, when you buy dumb, its me and others with sense that have to live with bad decisionmaking of a deluded majority. 

We had four years of that Trump bullshit and failure, of an unbuilt wall, already, and a sane majority voted Trump out, with Joe Biden over four years having proven better.

Different CPAC spinmeister schmuck, same problem. "Repatriation flights to Mexico," Miller glibly says, and if the Mexican government says no, go to war with Mexico? Get real. 

CPAC is all talk. Talk is cheap. Talk is false. But glib. Nobody has advanced pricing data of any reliable kind for Trump policy talk. And talk not only is cheap, it's free at CPAC. 

You don't pay for CPAC propaganda - to be propagandized. Somebody else pays to have it packaged and presented to you, and it is that somebody's investment, not gift. So who is behind the curtain? Paying the piper and calling the tune? And, why?

Genuine cost benefit data a thinking Congress and staff can deal with, is MIA. It is hand waving hocus pocus Trump and Miller deal out. It is Stephen Miller whoever he is and wherever he came from says so-and-so. Hell, it was Michele Bachmann who gave the SOB his first DC job. Crazy Michele. Then Jeff Sessions. That's his bona fides. 

 It is spinning humbug. It is a delusion sandwich. Etc. The man's left tracks.

Confrontational. In a mean, destructive, discourteous way.

And if you do not see a likely massive economic worldwide depression lurking in the glib words of Stephen Miller, if put into action where our nation needs the work immigrants provide, guess again. A suit like Miller ain't going to be out in the sun tending row crops, or cutting lettuce.

FURTHER: Slate. ScientificAmereican.

Quoting from the Slate item:

At his RNC speech on Thursday, Trump repeated his bizarre and farcical claim that migrants are “coming from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums, and terrorists at levels never seen before,” before once again pledging “the largest deportation operation in the history of our country—even larger than that of President Dwight D. Eisenhower many years ago.” This latter bit is an explicit reference to Operation Wetback (yes, that was its real name), a 1954 initiative to round up and deport hundreds of thousands of presumed Mexican immigrants that not only violated their civil and human rights but, historians agree, also targeted U.S. citizens of Mexican descent. That was a military-style operation using an armed Border Patrol, but Trump seems enthusiastic to go whole hog and just use the military.

This shockingly fascistic design hasn’t really come into the public consciousness for a number of reasons, including its sheer breadth, but also because it’s easy to wave away as patently illegal. Troops are prohibited from conducting any domestic law enforcement under the longtime principle known as Posse Comitatus, and so this plan is dead before it can start, right?

Sort of. That picture has now been complicated by the Supreme Court’s ruling in Trump v. United States, in which the justices decided that presidents are fully immune from prosecution for any conduct that involves a “core constitutional power.” In fact, such official actions can’t even be used as evidence in other investigations.

Much of the commentary around this ruling has homed in on the possibility of a reelected Trump using the Justice Department to go after political enemies or try to steal an election (again), but it’s hard to think of a presidential power as clear-cut as dominion over the military. The president’s role as “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States” is the first power explicitly given in Article 2 of the Constitution. Although the ability to formally declare and wage war is granted to Congress, operational command is fully vested in the executive and is perversely less limited when the president is calling upon troops for uses other than war.

Posse Comitatus, no matter how integral we consider it to our contemporary polity, is not a constitutional principle. In fact, it emerged only in the 1870s, as a direct backlash to the use of federal troops during Reconstruction. In the new calculus SCOTUS has laid out, core presidential powers like control of the military fully trump statutory constraints like this as far as presidential accountability is concerned. Put more simply, SCOTUS all but gave Trump the green light to violate Posse Comitatus with no conceivable civil or criminal repercussions. He cannot be sued or prosecuted as long as he has engaged in official acts, with the only course of action being the political remedy of impeachment, which has already twice failed to result in a conviction for Trump.

The ruling directly covers only the president, not any lower-level officials who would still be constrained by federal law, a stipulation that would be a lot more reassuring if the power to “grant Reprieves and Pardons” weren’t a few lines after control of the military. Posse Comitatus is a federal law and, as far as I can tell, has no state-level equivalents, which means Trump would also be immune from offering and issuing pardons to any military officers who carried out criminal mass arrest, detainment, and deportation-operation orders.

There would still be some avenues for targeted noncitizens and their local officials to fight back. The refusal by state and local governments to go along with Trump’s efforts is arguably the only thing that prevented the administration from ever reaching the staggering numbers of removals that characterized the early part of the Obama era. Although once steadfast support for undocumented immigrants has recently softened in dense, migrant-heavy urban areas like New York City, mayors and governors will not be keen on hostile military operations in their jurisdictions, though what little precedent exists tends to have the military prevailing in a face-off with local authorities.

Weird people.