Thursday, November 13, 2008

MPR online reports of some GOP and DFL post-election thinking.

Curtis Gilbert yesterday wrote online for MPR:

St. Paul, Minn. — Former Minnesota Republican Congressman Vin Weber doesn't think the Minnesota GOP should be feeling cocky right now.

"The best that I can say about 2008 is it was not as bad as we had feared," said Weber.

Minnesota Republicans had feared the worst. They worried they'd lose retiring Republican Jim Ramstad's congressional seat. It was also possible Democrats could pick off first-term U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann. But Bachmann won, and Erik Paulsen kept the Ramstad seat in Republican hands. Still, Weber says that's not a victory.

"A victory is when you actually win things and gain seats and things like that. And we did not have a victorious night by any means," Weber said.

Minnesota's U.S. Senate race hangs in recount limbo. Minnesota went to Democrat Barack Obama by 10 percentage points, and the GOP also lost ground in the state Legislature.

But Weber also hopes Republicans don't spend too much time beating themselves up over the 2008 election.

"Some of that is OK, I guess. But let's get on with the business of recruiting good candidates, training good candidates and identifying the issues we're going to run on," he said.

Republican strategist Pat Shortridge has a list of issues all ready to go.

"Our schools aren't performing like they should be. Our health care system's not financed properly," said Shortridge. "We have to do something about pensions, and our tax code is an albatross around the neck of both families and job creators."

Shortridge knows what it's like to lose an election. He ran Mark Kennedy's U.S. Senate campaign two years ago.

Shortridge says if Republicans want to start winning again, they need to offer solutions to those four major domestic problems. But he argues his party needs to pay attention to the way Democrats are running their campaigns.


I have posted linking to one GOP blogger's views, as interesting, and not different from paying attention to the way Democrats are running campaigns. Grassroot technological innovation, although Gary Gross might term his views differently. Shortridge does clearly separate content, his four issues, from method, doing what succeeded with the Dems. MPR online continues with a DFL dimension:

DFLers have also been doing some soul-searching in the week following the election. Democrats had hoped to capture those two Republican-held congressional seats, and it didn't happen.

One seat they'd hoped to win was in Minnesota's 6th District. Party strategist Michael Guest worked on DFLer Elwyn Tinklenberg's campaign, and he says the DFL has some lessons to learn.

"I think they need to find really strong candidates that match the state of Minnesota, that are able to articulate and deliver a message, and build a strong organization around that campaign," Guest said.

When asked if he thought some of the party's candidates in the election were weak, Guest responded:

"I think there were some candidates that rose through the system that were not the best fit for Minnesota."

Guest wouldn't say whether he was referring to his candidate Tinklenberg, Senate candidate Al Franken or 3rd District congressional candidate Ashwin Madia.

"I'm going to let the public decide who those people were," Guest said.

Former DFL Attorney General Mike Hatch isn't so hard on his party.

"The reality of it is -- there are eight congressional districts in Minnesota, and five of them are held by Democrats," he said.

Doing the math in his head, Hatch figures that means about 63 percent of Minnesotans have a Democrat representing them in the U.S. House.

"And 63 percent is higher than what the Democratic margin is in this state," Hatch said. "So it's unrealistic to expect the Democrats to try to get seven out of eight seats."

Hatch, who came in second in a three-way race for governor in 2006, says the DFL does need to figure out how to limit the influence of the Independence Party. Its top candidates got 10 to 15 percent of the vote this year. And that's enough to swing the outcome of a close race.


And the IP? As usual in this post they do not make the headline, but somebody introduces them to things with the spoiler characterization Hatch knows from experience, Peter Hutchinson doing him in for enough votes to give us more Pawlenty.

MPR presents an IP view:

But the IP is still far from amassing enough votes to win an election. Former Independence Party chair Jack Uldrich acknowledges that's frustrating.

"We are tired of losing, and we want to win," said Uldrich. "But at the same time, we understand what we are undertaking isn't going to be done in two, four or maybe even six years."

Uldrich says the IP's numbers are rising steadily, if slowly.


There are two bloggers I have seen who went from DFL to Barkley/IP for the recent cycle, and one DFL insider I am aware of who says he's probably shifted IP.

I expect if a progressive DFL Governor endorsement arises, some might reconsider. If not, expect more defections. As to the IP in the upcoming Governor's contest, will they wait as before to see who is endorsed GOP and DFL, and then decide who they want to spoil? Or will they aim for something besides raining on someone's parade, and do as their person Uldrich concluded for MPR:

To raise more money, Uldrich says IP candidates like Dean Barkley can't wait until mid-July to start their campaigns.

That would mean former Gov. Jesse Ventura couldn't spend months hinting about jumping into the race, only to decide against it at the very last minute.


Ah, Cabaret, that haunting tune, not Tomorrow Belongs to Us, this one, relating to the first above Uldrich paragraph:

A mark, a yen, a buck or a pound,
a buck or a pound, a buck or a pound,
Is all that makes the world go around,
that clinking clanking sound,
Can make the world go round.